【今更だけど聞かせて!】超RIZIN4/朝倉未来vsクレベル/UFC中村倫也の振り返り!

I’m sure they’ll say it again in the comments. It’s too late. There’s no one who has that kind of sense when it comes to fighting. The players are amazing, they’ve grown so much, they’re stronger than I thought. When it was over, I thought, “Oh, Kleber won by attacking the whole time,” and then Asakura joined in, and I was like, “That’s it.” [Music] Welcome to the Triaman Channel. I’m so sorry, but I know this is a little late, but Super Rise and [Music] are sure they’ll say it again. I’m sure they’ll press it in the comments. But I guess you still want to hear about Triaman, even if it’s late. Oh, I want to hear it. [Music] Okay. Anyway, let’s go one at a time. Okay. Okay, Fuji-san, one guideline. Fuji-san. No, it’s seriously amazing. Not just Yang Ji-o, but Tatsuya -san has been making a huge buzz in the two matches between when I went to America in April and when I came back, and it’s amazing. I was training with him, and I knew how tough it was, but the timing was n’t quite right for his career, so I didn’t want it to end, so I’m really happy. He’s so strong. Yes. I think you’re a similar type . Yeah. Tatsuya, you have an animal’s sense of smell. There’s no one who has that kind of sense for fighting . In wrestling, there was this guy named Aka-senpai who competed in the Paris Olympics, and he was the only person I admired in wrestling, and he was the only person I wanted to be like. Including the training fees. And his rival was Ando Tatsuya, and in high school, I thought, oh, I see. He started in high school and I thought that anyone who could defeat Akazawa-senpai must be amazing, and then he transferred to MMA and I heard stories of him being a monster, long before I went, and when he actually defeated him he was amazing, and I feel like he’s finally been in the spotlight. But I think once he gets going he’s probably amazing, and people like that have been building up this much , yeah. Yeah. I’m sure he has some kind of stamina or a kind of spirit, and I think that all of that will explode and he’ll show us even more amazing things. From now on, this is still just a supporting role, isn’t it? Yeah. No, well, it’s not that I have high hopes, but I’m sure he’ll come out if he takes on stronger opponents from now on. Do you know him, Ki-chan? Yes. I’ve trained with him a few times. Oh, is that so? Yes, Suando, that crazy beat, crazy beat, and fight-based, ah, even fight-based, saying things like, “Leave Japan to me,” “The world is counting on you,” but no, let’s do our best, let’s do our best for Japan, and in his last two fights, he’s been using his punches effectively and landing back shocks, and I don’t think any foreigner has won in the same crazy way. It was performance of the night. And the concentration in the fight against Kikki was incredible. I really think it’s great that he has a strong jab. It’s like he’s worked on it a lot, like a precise machine, a precise machine. I think Fukuda Ryua’s wild, nose-to-the-ground instinct is a weapon, and he doesn’t let the jabs cancel that out. He threw him off balance with his silver low kicks at key points, and then he mixed in crescents and middle kicks and even high kicks, which I thought was really great. It’s probably pretty difficult to break down the opponent with just the punches, or maybe you just need to mix it up. That’s what I thought. Did the fight unfold as expected? Or were there any surprises? [Music] It was as expected for me. Well, even when the fight became a group fight, I was strong at scrambling . I had the impression that Fukuda was the one who wanted to get into close range. I see. I thought Fukuda would be more wild, but he contained him. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s it. Yeah. Yes. I think he wanted to go that way, but he didn’t let him, so it was a beautiful match. [Music] vs. Ya, well, that was his first flyball in a while, and I was really surprised at how well his body was, and he looked in great condition, so I think it was a really good match. Well, Hiya is amazing. He’s grown so much, I didn’t think it would turn into a strife like that, but he went for the wrestling and took the back, and it turned into a match that was impressive. I get it. Not much. It was a while ago, so I probably forgot. We weren’t all that fresh, were we? Please use this conversation too. It was really , really light, so this is it. Well, we’re teammates who train together, so I knew what he was working on and what he’d done specifically , and it showed in the match. Yes. But, well, I don’t think I can go into specifics, so, well, I guess, Hiya was stronger than I thought. I thought he ‘d incorporate more wrestling, but as they were exchanging blows, he mixed in uppercuts and knees well and gained the advantage with his striking, and as for the base techniques, he was definitely a snake, as you’d expect from the Year of the Snake . I hope he keeps this up and challenges for the title and wins it. It doesn’t feel like it’s been a while since he last threw a fly ball. Before the Mickle Kroeder fight, what were your predictions for who would win? [Music] I didn’t really know. What would happen in this fight? Well, I thought it was probably impossible for him to win from below , and I didn’t think Asakura would have the advantage if it turned into a striking battle, so I didn’t know . But I was watching it at the airport on my way to Las Vegas for my own fight. I didn’t have headphones, so I muted the sound. When it was over, I thought, “Oh, Kleber won because he was on the offensive the whole time,” and then I looked at the judges, and there was one vote for Kleber, and two votes for Kleber, and I was like, “That’s good, that’s it.” That’s pretty common in the world, isn’t it? [Music] What about the judges? Well, when I looked on social media , I thought there would probably be a lot of controversy, and then I saw a lot of people saying it was Asakura, so I watched it again. But when I watch it without sound, I think he definitely beat Kleber. But when I watch it with sound, and I think the same thing when I’m in the venue, those brothers make a lot of noise. Like the thumping of punches and kicks. So, yeah, it’s really impressive. You notice it. And if you see the swarms and stuff, I thought, yeah, you could definitely tell. Ah, uh, what did you think, Kei-chan? [Music] If Kleber was going to win, he’d have to take him down, take the top position , and use his footwork in the scramble, because he got beaten by triangle last time. Oh, it was like he lost a few points. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought they’d have countermeasures for triangles and 10 o’clock positions, but there wasn’t a set plan for that. So I thought he wouldn’t be able to finish with his footwork in the scramble or the ground. So, yeah, Asakura won by decision, but yeah. I mean, I don’t really understand that total must. Ah, it’s a round must, so I understand the score, but I don’t really understand the ultimate standard of total must, so when it comes down to a decision, I feel like I don’t really understand. Right. I see. To be honest, that’s true. It’s just my understanding of martial arts, but when I say that Kleber won without a match, I think there’s an image of the rounds. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. But if someone asks me if he was better at the end or what he looked like overall, I look back at it and think, “Yes, that’s true.” Recently, the standard issue [Music] is really true. I can’t really say. My impression is that Asakura completely won. [Music] Wow. So, did Asakura do what he wanted? Those 15 minutes. Yeah, surely he did? Like, if perfect defense was what he wanted, then he already lost at that point. [Music] Why do you say that? Because isn’t it? It’s given to the martial artist. No, if you defend and get a point, for example, if you cut the kick, Yes, one point. Blocking a punch is two points , but that depends on the opponent. Right. It’s because the opponent threw a punch. No, no, no, no. I was only talking about defense. All defense was positive damage. Going all out and chipping away at the opponent, [applause] and pounding and stuff. He was doing damage properly, and when you think about how he was doing it, Mikuru wasn’t really taking that much. From my perspective, that is. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Yeah. Well, I don’t know. Well, well, it’s really a total must, so I don’t know. Yes. I wanted to see Miku go all out with his strikes. Just a fan’s perspective. Yes. This is selfish, but yeah, yeah. Kleber attacks with his jutsu. Asakura attacks with his strikes, I wanted to see some kind of offensive attack. But I’m just a selfish fan. So when it’s the other way around, well, it’s a bit blurry. Well, that’s true. That’s true. That’s true. They both had things they wanted to say, and they were n’t satisfied, so they kept pushing and shoving. I don’t think there was a clear difference in the striking. They did hit, but I didn’t really hear it, and their movements weren’t really slowing down. They kept going offensively against the grapples, forcing him into the post and getting into body locks. And , you know, he was pulling him in. Do you see that as a sign of exhaustion, or do you see it as Kleber choosing to fight in that ring? That’s the difference. What do you think about this? Sannomiya, I think Kleber’s greatest strength is his ground fighting. [Music] Even though he was using that strength, he wasn’t able to inflict the damage of his value techniques on Mikuru. [Music] [Applause] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m a stampede. That’s what I saw. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know why it’s getting so heated. I’m talking about Assassin Staff vs. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that’s right. [Music] Well, ground fighting isn’t about damage. Basically, taking a position is what’s called a reach. This guy Tsuda said that if you pass, for the root techniques, you’re already in a reach, and in terms of striking, it’s like you’re making him stagger. Ah, so he was in a reach, so he kept going for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was going for it. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I see. So, while dealing with that, well, he did throw a few punches here and there, but on the other hand, there were also some scenes where he kicked from below, so I thought that was fine. Oh, I see. Yeah. He wasn’t in a reach with his strikes, and like last time, the judges, like Asakura Mitsuru, who blocked out the areas where Kleber excels in value techniques, were not good to begin with. The judges don’t judge in advance. This fighter doesn’t calculate points here. You have to look at it objectively. That’s right. That’s why judges are so kind, whether it’s Asakura Miki vs. me or Kleber vs. Nakamura Ri. Ah, Kleber and Asakura grappling. Striking. Yeah. Oh, it’s cheating, so you can’t do this or that. No prior information allowed. [Music] No, no, you two, you caught me, an amateur, so it’s no use even if you’re amazing. I mean, [Music] It’s impossible to fight with information you get from the internet. That’s true, but it was really interesting. [Laughter] The two of them talking. Ah, well, it’s a rematch, after all. It’s hard to beat the first triangle misstep. Yeah. I guess the impact of those two in the first match was so strong, so I guess it inevitably turned out like this. That’s my review of Super Rising 4, even though it’s a little late. Thank you everyone for watching. Thank you. Thank you for watching until the end. Please subscribe and like. Ando-san. Oh, well, it’s fine. I thought it might be a one-sided thing. Oh, that’s good. It’s totally fine.

7月27日(日)に行われた超RIZIN4の印象に残った試合について、UFCファイターの中村倫也と先日見事 road to ufc準決勝で勝利した中村京一郎の二人に語ってもらいました。朝倉未来選手 vs クレベル選手他。

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27 Comments

  1. 素人質問ですいません。寝技の選手が相手を制す前、フィニッシュの前段階が評価されるなら、打撃の選手がジャズからフィニッシュへの間合いでも同等に評価されるのでは?と思っております。

  2. 半狂乱になるアサシン本当にキモい
    そもそも判定割れてるんだからどっちの意見もあるだろ

  3. リーチをかけている状態っていうのは、寝技をセットした状態では無いですか?
    パス=打撃を効かせたというのはかなり柔術寄りな考え
    しかもクレベル選手は結果として殆ど引き込みで上のポジションを譲っていたので、朝倉選手の勝利というのが大半の見方です。

  4. 13:25 これ、フラットにというが中村倫也に関してはフラットに見れてないからこそクレベル勝ちと言ってるんだよな
    寝業師というバイアス掛かりまくってクレベルの仕掛けを評価してるんだからw むしろこの二人にアドバイスしたいセリフなんだが

  5. じゃあ朝倉選手はやりたい事出来てたんすか⁇ディフェンスがやりたかった事ならその時点で負けてるんじゃないですかのくだりがリンヤマンのハングリーが見えて好きです。公平さというのか…

  6. 一つ言えることはここでリンヤマンに偉そうコメントしてる奴は全員「素人」ということ。
    他の格闘家選手が「朝倉勝ち」って言ってる(特にシンヤ・エイオキ)という意見に乗っかってるだけ。現役ufc選手のリンヤマンに対して「素人」が何言っても意味ないのよ。そういう見方もあるんだとエンタメとして楽しまないとさ。

  7. 9:47

    ディフェンスがやりたかったとかではなくクレベルがただ単にテイクダウン出来なくてただただくっつき虫をしてただけでしょ😂笑

    青木真也さんのRIZINルールMMAでの目的と手段の話を聞いてきたら👋

  8. 俺も朝倉未来の勝ちだと思ったけど、ここまでの批判は異常w忖度しないとならない流れに負けずに、今後も好きなこと喋って欲しい。

  9. 結局JMOKの判定では、3人のうち2人はどっちもダメージもアグレッシブもとれずジェネラルシップで僅差の朝倉勝利でした。クレベルは得意の寝技で優位に立つ所かニアフィニッシュも無かった。朝倉はクレベルの寝技を作戦通り凌いで、肘とかパウンドを少し当てた。結果、自分が想定してた試合をしてたのは朝倉未来っていう評価。クレベルは組みついて攻めるも、テイクとれず、惜しいシーンもつくれず、全て凌がれ、打撃も当てれず。クレベルが勝利してた方がもっと荒れてたでしょう。どっちにしろ朝倉未来も打撃を出しずらかったと後悔してたし、塩試合っぽくなったのは間違いない。

  10. 常に攻めてたのはクレベルだけど
    ただクレベルも本当はバック取ったり上になりたかったのに結局防がれてバックを取れず仕方ないから引き込んだみたいな印象なのでそこはイーブンかなと
    スタンドの打撃もイーブン
    ただ朝倉未来はインサイドガードからのパウンドや肘を当ててたのでそこで差がついたと思う
    朝倉未来勝ちだと思うけどめちゃくちゃつまらない試合でした笑
    判定とかよりもあの試合がつまらないと言われないで扇久保の試合がつまらないと言われてる事に違和感ある笑

  11. 「未来はトップ取ってパウンド落とした」

    残念ながらクレベルはこれと同等かそれ以上のことはなにもしていない
    なので未来の勝ちで納得いく

  12. 運営さん、あなたより視聴者の方が
    リンヤマンの話が聴きたいんです。
    もっと早く仕事して下さい。

  13. 中村さん、あなた「クレベルバイアス病」に罹ってますよ、早く病院へ行って治療してください。

  14. 朝倉選手の結果は堀口選手と真逆の事言ってて、意外とこの人、見る目ないんだな。

  15. アサシンこわ!
    とりあえずリンヤマン、京一郎くんめっちゃいい試合でした!
    おめでとうございますー

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